Comments on: “The Christ we seek is within us” http://punctum-saliens.org/2007/06/05/the-christ-we-seek-is-within-us/ Leaping Point: Take a flying leap and see where you land Wed, 16 May 2012 12:41:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MossBack http://punctum-saliens.org/2007/06/05/the-christ-we-seek-is-within-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1140 MossBack Sat, 21 Jul 2007 06:31:48 +0000 http://ifyouregonnadothatyougotta.org/2007/06/05/the-christ-we-seek-is-within-us/#comment-1140 In the oneness of marriage, the 2 becoming one doesn't cancel their discreteness; they are still distinct, though not separate (well, in the best case scenario, anyway). Just like in the Trinity: the Father is not the Son is not the Holy Spirit---they're one and yet they're not identical. Reality is not some sort of glorified pantheistic blob. Even in the Eon To Come, the residents of the City of God will not *BE* God; they will not be Jesus, or the Father, or the Holy Spirit. But they will perfectly partake of God's holiness. As for "If we all did that...Obeying God’s law would be first-nature because it would be our law...God’s will would, surely, be done on earth as it is in heaven": again, all of this is part of the City of God. It CAN not and WILL not happen (cf. Communism, Nazism and the Inquisition) by man's actions, whether from within each man or from without (ecclesiastical or state coercion), b/c individually and corporately man is irreparably marred, incapable of extricating himself from his fallenness or extirpating the congenital cancer that resides in his soul. For example, ROMANS 7 puts it this way: "I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good. So then it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot do it. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand." Kinda like spyware: you can't really totally get rid of it (not to mention that some spyware replicates itself endlessly) unless you reformat the whole hard-drive. Sure, you can maybe to some extent retard or curtail the spyware's power, but you can't totally arrest it except by draconic measures. In the oneness of marriage, the 2 becoming one doesn’t cancel their discreteness; they are still distinct, though not separate (well, in the best case scenario, anyway). Just like in the Trinity: the Father is not the Son is not the Holy Spirit—they’re one and yet they’re not identical.

Reality is not some sort of glorified pantheistic blob.

Even in the Eon To Come, the residents of the City of God will not *BE* God; they will not be Jesus, or the Father, or the Holy Spirit. But they will perfectly partake of God’s holiness.

As for “If we all did that…Obeying God’s law would be first-nature because it would be our law…God’s will would, surely, be done on earth as it is in heaven”: again, all of this is part of the City of God. It CAN not and WILL not happen (cf. Communism, Nazism and the Inquisition) by man’s actions, whether from within each man or from without (ecclesiastical or state coercion), b/c individually and corporately man is irreparably marred, incapable of extricating himself from his fallenness or extirpating the congenital cancer that resides in his soul.

For example, ROMANS 7 puts it this way: “I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good. So then it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me. For I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh. I can will what is right, but I cannot do it. For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I do. Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I that do it, but sin which dwells within me. So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand.”

Kinda like spyware: you can’t really totally get rid of it (not to mention that some spyware replicates itself endlessly) unless you reformat the whole hard-drive. Sure, you can maybe to some extent retard or curtail the spyware’s power, but you can’t totally arrest it except by draconic measures.

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